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		<title>Comment on Advertising That Works. Sorta. by Daniel Backhaus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Backhaus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 May 2013 00:08:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gabe,

Thanks for the flowers... and the valuable insight. And worry not about plugging Sq1. You&#039;re a marketer, right? It&#039;s what we do.

I agree that all parties - brands, agencies, technology providers, etc. - need to look beyond their immediate role, identify where the true business value lies, and define BUSINESS goals accordingly. Which is not to say that there shouldn&#039;t be relevant and &quot;hard&quot; KPIs along the way (there should). But, as Chris points out below, site traffic, impressions, and clicks alone are meaningless. Nothing happens until something happens, and marketers often seem to forget this. I have worked at agencies and with clients that seemed so in love with the practice of marketing, they seemed to forget its role: SELL STUFF! I have seen websites that were beautiful to behold, cost millions of dollars, and were technical marvels. But, alas, they had no drive-to (either somebody forgot or there was just no budget left after all that video and Flash development) and thus, despite sweeping every award on offer, they were never seen by more than a few thousand folks, most of them members of the AMA, the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.webbyawards.com/about/&quot; title=&quot; International Academy of Digital Arts and Sciences&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;IADAS&lt;/a&gt; or &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.oneclub.org/oc/organization/mission/&quot; title=&quot;The One Club&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The One Club&lt;/a&gt;. Other projects would lack conversion points, a call-to-action, lead generation or CRM integration and so would fail to deliver anything more than tangible than brand exposure.

Lately, there is this obsession with data. But data in and of itself is meaningless without context, analysis and insight. Yes, the digital channel offers interaction and the ability to measure reach, engagement and much more, but this must be put into context, and must tie back to clear business and brand objectives.

I agree the industry still has a way to go to deliver on their promise. Keep fighting the good fight!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gabe,</p>
<p>Thanks for the flowers&#8230; and the valuable insight. And worry not about plugging Sq1. You&#8217;re a marketer, right? It&#8217;s what we do.</p>
<p>I agree that all parties &#8211; brands, agencies, technology providers, etc. &#8211; need to look beyond their immediate role, identify where the true business value lies, and define BUSINESS goals accordingly. Which is not to say that there shouldn&#8217;t be relevant and &#8220;hard&#8221; KPIs along the way (there should). But, as Chris points out below, site traffic, impressions, and clicks alone are meaningless. Nothing happens until something happens, and marketers often seem to forget this. I have worked at agencies and with clients that seemed so in love with the practice of marketing, they seemed to forget its role: SELL STUFF! I have seen websites that were beautiful to behold, cost millions of dollars, and were technical marvels. But, alas, they had no drive-to (either somebody forgot or there was just no budget left after all that video and Flash development) and thus, despite sweeping every award on offer, they were never seen by more than a few thousand folks, most of them members of the AMA, the <a href="http://www.webbyawards.com/about/" title=" International Academy of Digital Arts and Sciences" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">IADAS</a> or <a href="http://www.oneclub.org/oc/organization/mission/" title="The One Club" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">The One Club</a>. Other projects would lack conversion points, a call-to-action, lead generation or CRM integration and so would fail to deliver anything more than tangible than brand exposure.</p>
<p>Lately, there is this obsession with data. But data in and of itself is meaningless without context, analysis and insight. Yes, the digital channel offers interaction and the ability to measure reach, engagement and much more, but this must be put into context, and must tie back to clear business and brand objectives.</p>
<p>I agree the industry still has a way to go to deliver on their promise. Keep fighting the good fight!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Advertising That Works. Sorta. by Gabe Winslow</title>
		<link>http://danielbackhaus.com/advertising-that-works-sorta#comment-6349</link>
		<dc:creator>Gabe Winslow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 May 2013 22:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dan,

Great article and I completely agree with many of the points made. I will add that it is my opinion that the industry has missed the mark as badly as they have by aiming for the wrong target most of the time. The majority of the industry still measures by impression and click data. Agencies should focus on the end business goals as the key KPI&#039;s in a campaign. Conversion centric campaigns that optimize towards the end conversion deliver bottom line performance that not only drive true ROI but also deliver valuable business insights. Until the industry changes it&#039;s focus, that change will be slow to come.

Shameless plug, my agency, Sq1 (http://www.sq1agency.com) uses a Conversion Optimization methodology to help all of our clients overcome the problems mentioned in this article.

Great job.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan,</p>
<p>Great article and I completely agree with many of the points made. I will add that it is my opinion that the industry has missed the mark as badly as they have by aiming for the wrong target most of the time. The majority of the industry still measures by impression and click data. Agencies should focus on the end business goals as the key KPI&#8217;s in a campaign. Conversion centric campaigns that optimize towards the end conversion deliver bottom line performance that not only drive true ROI but also deliver valuable business insights. Until the industry changes it&#8217;s focus, that change will be slow to come.</p>
<p>Shameless plug, my agency, Sq1 (<a href="http://www.sq1agency.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.sq1agency.com</a>) uses a Conversion Optimization methodology to help all of our clients overcome the problems mentioned in this article.</p>
<p>Great job.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Advertising That Works. Sorta. by Daniel Backhaus</title>
		<link>http://danielbackhaus.com/advertising-that-works-sorta#comment-6347</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Backhaus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 May 2013 18:29:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Chris,
Excellent comment and insight. My heroes have always been cowboys (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31aETl1BESU), so I like how you tied my childhood dreams into your remarks. ;-)

You&#039;re also spot on that even the smallest error in initial assumptions, recycled and amplified by each algorithmic iteration, gets compounded exponentially, leading to campaigns that drift further and further afield without human intervention. It&#039;s not unlike the trajectory of a projectile flying several miles, where even a slight deviation from the ideal flight path near the point of launch gets amplified along the flight path and will mean that it will be hundreds of yards off-target at impact. 

Moreover, while automated programs are great at recognizing patterns (often incorrectly) and shifting spend accordingly, they lack intuition, context and instinct (what we commonly refer to as &quot;common sense&quot;). This is why it&#039;s crucial to have experienced marketers review campaign performance at regular, frequent intervals and adapt KPIs that go beyond impressions and click-through and include downstream measurements like attributable conversions, lift in sales, etc. Unfortunately, many advertisers and media agencies trust programmatic buying too much and treat them as &quot;fire and forget&quot; systems that self-adjust.

As to you still being targeted by your B-School, perhaps you should give them (or their agency) a quick primer on this topic and show them the error of their ways. I&#039;m sure they would knock a couple of grand off the price of your second MBA in return. ;-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Chris,<br />
Excellent comment and insight. My heroes have always been cowboys (<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31aETl1BESU" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31aETl1BESU</a>), so I like how you tied my childhood dreams into your remarks. <img src='http://danielbackhaus.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>You&#8217;re also spot on that even the smallest error in initial assumptions, recycled and amplified by each algorithmic iteration, gets compounded exponentially, leading to campaigns that drift further and further afield without human intervention. It&#8217;s not unlike the trajectory of a projectile flying several miles, where even a slight deviation from the ideal flight path near the point of launch gets amplified along the flight path and will mean that it will be hundreds of yards off-target at impact. </p>
<p>Moreover, while automated programs are great at recognizing patterns (often incorrectly) and shifting spend accordingly, they lack intuition, context and instinct (what we commonly refer to as &#8220;common sense&#8221;). This is why it&#8217;s crucial to have experienced marketers review campaign performance at regular, frequent intervals and adapt KPIs that go beyond impressions and click-through and include downstream measurements like attributable conversions, lift in sales, etc. Unfortunately, many advertisers and media agencies trust programmatic buying too much and treat them as &#8220;fire and forget&#8221; systems that self-adjust.</p>
<p>As to you still being targeted by your B-School, perhaps you should give them (or their agency) a quick primer on this topic and show them the error of their ways. I&#8217;m sure they would knock a couple of grand off the price of your second MBA in return. <img src='http://danielbackhaus.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Advertising That Works. Sorta. by Chris Barber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Barber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 May 2013 13:33:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I say &quot;www&quot; stands for Wild Wild West because even though there&#039;s a sheriff, the cowboys do most of the policing of the outlaws. It&#039;s an imperfect system but it functions. If you&#039;re a cowboy, the only thing you can do is to stay away from outlaws, but they&#039;re part of the environment and sometimes they can find you. 

Anyone that has gone deep into any website&#039;s analytics can tell you, there is a wide varying degree of values of clicks, visit, conversions, or any other metric for that matter. That&#039;s why the value of a &quot;user&quot; has decreased significantly in my mind. How many email addresses do you use? How many people use your primary IP address? What about the browser on your computer? The problem is that 1 small incorrect assumption made by the algorithm is multiplied a million fold. Every platform is analyzing the same data and creating outputs based on their personal assumptions they use in their algorithm. They then put the altered (and a little more incorrect) data back into the system, allowing it to churn into perpetuity. For example, I decided to attend my MBA school 5 years ago and probably clicked &quot;apply&quot; somewhere back then. Well 5 tears later I&#039;m still getting re-targeted for the school, whom I&#039;ve already given thousands of dollars to! They&#039;ve probably wasted thousands of impressions on me after I enrolled.    

The only way to really know what your data is telling you is to think behind the metrics. Think about who is doing the clicking and why they are doing it. People use the Internet as a tool to find information, simply give them what they are looking for. Everything else is just noise, inefficiencies, and spam.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I say &#8220;www&#8221; stands for Wild Wild West because even though there&#8217;s a sheriff, the cowboys do most of the policing of the outlaws. It&#8217;s an imperfect system but it functions. If you&#8217;re a cowboy, the only thing you can do is to stay away from outlaws, but they&#8217;re part of the environment and sometimes they can find you. </p>
<p>Anyone that has gone deep into any website&#8217;s analytics can tell you, there is a wide varying degree of values of clicks, visit, conversions, or any other metric for that matter. That&#8217;s why the value of a &#8220;user&#8221; has decreased significantly in my mind. How many email addresses do you use? How many people use your primary IP address? What about the browser on your computer? The problem is that 1 small incorrect assumption made by the algorithm is multiplied a million fold. Every platform is analyzing the same data and creating outputs based on their personal assumptions they use in their algorithm. They then put the altered (and a little more incorrect) data back into the system, allowing it to churn into perpetuity. For example, I decided to attend my MBA school 5 years ago and probably clicked &#8220;apply&#8221; somewhere back then. Well 5 tears later I&#8217;m still getting re-targeted for the school, whom I&#8217;ve already given thousands of dollars to! They&#8217;ve probably wasted thousands of impressions on me after I enrolled.    </p>
<p>The only way to really know what your data is telling you is to think behind the metrics. Think about who is doing the clicking and why they are doing it. People use the Internet as a tool to find information, simply give them what they are looking for. Everything else is just noise, inefficiencies, and spam.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Advertising That Works. Sorta. by Daniel Backhaus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Backhaus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Apr 2013 15:22:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jeff,
Thanks for stopping in, reading my post, and commenting. I&#039;m not sure if MORE data is needed or simply MORE RELEVANT data. I feel the problem is not one of lack of data, but rather, lack of insight. The signal/noise ratio seems off. Better filtering (by machines) and more robust analysis (by people) should lick that. As to the creepiness factor, this can only be handled by marketers (people) and will require sound judgement, something often missing even among big brands. A good recent example here: http://www.marketingweek.co.uk/opinion/why-hyundai-has-committed-brand-suicide-with-its-failed-attempt-at-viral/4006502.article

And as an aside, I regularly flush &amp; dump my browsing history, cache and cookies. So as not to expose other users of my device to boring ad-tech articles and advertising. ;-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff,<br />
Thanks for stopping in, reading my post, and commenting. I&#8217;m not sure if MORE data is needed or simply MORE RELEVANT data. I feel the problem is not one of lack of data, but rather, lack of insight. The signal/noise ratio seems off. Better filtering (by machines) and more robust analysis (by people) should lick that. As to the creepiness factor, this can only be handled by marketers (people) and will require sound judgement, something often missing even among big brands. A good recent example here: <a href="http://www.marketingweek.co.uk/opinion/why-hyundai-has-committed-brand-suicide-with-its-failed-attempt-at-viral/4006502.article" rel="nofollow">http://www.marketingweek.co.uk/opinion/why-hyundai-has-committed-brand-suicide-with-its-failed-attempt-at-viral/4006502.article</a></p>
<p>And as an aside, I regularly flush &#038; dump my browsing history, cache and cookies. So as not to expose other users of my device to boring ad-tech articles and advertising. <img src='http://danielbackhaus.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Advertising That Works. Sorta. by Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Apr 2013 15:10:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good insights, Dan.  I love the potential of re-targeting but agree we need even more data to make it truly effective (but perhaps even more creepy).  Not sure if consumers will react positively when the ads are spot-on with what&#039;s happening in their life - reminds me of Target&#039;s profiling efforts a few years back when they knew a woman was pregnant before her family did.  We&#039;ll see the next leap forward with integration of ipTV data into the online funnel - could be interesting when your daughter starts seeing ads based on what you watch...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good insights, Dan.  I love the potential of re-targeting but agree we need even more data to make it truly effective (but perhaps even more creepy).  Not sure if consumers will react positively when the ads are spot-on with what&#8217;s happening in their life &#8211; reminds me of Target&#8217;s profiling efforts a few years back when they knew a woman was pregnant before her family did.  We&#8217;ll see the next leap forward with integration of ipTV data into the online funnel &#8211; could be interesting when your daughter starts seeing ads based on what you watch&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Top Business Technology Trend Predictions for 2013 by Daniel Backhaus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Backhaus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2012 22:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, Joel, both for stopping by to read as well as taking the time to add these thoughtful comments. 
As to business&#039; slow uptake on analyzing and, more importantly, acting on the insights gained from user data, let me offer this: while Website metrics have been available for some time, the sheer volume of data has grown astronomically with the addition of social media metrics, loyalty and POS data, CRM and more. And, while data storage and processing have been somewhat enabled with new technologies including Hadoop and other cloud-based approaches, the bottleneck seems to be analytical skills and insight. As I wrote in my previous post on November 3rd (which you will find here: http://danielbackhaus.com/analytics-today-a-flood-of-tools-and-data-a-dearth-of-insight), data and tools are meaningless without staff that understand the business, can identify and focus on what is meaningful and have the analytical skills to create test scenarios to smoke out shortcomings and identify what is truly driving revenue.
I truly believe that many businesses - even those proclaiming to practice analytics and data-driven optimization - still struggle with getting this right.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Joel, both for stopping by to read as well as taking the time to add these thoughtful comments.<br />
As to business&#8217; slow uptake on analyzing and, more importantly, acting on the insights gained from user data, let me offer this: while Website metrics have been available for some time, the sheer volume of data has grown astronomically with the addition of social media metrics, loyalty and POS data, CRM and more. And, while data storage and processing have been somewhat enabled with new technologies including Hadoop and other cloud-based approaches, the bottleneck seems to be analytical skills and insight. As I wrote in my previous post on November 3rd (which you will find here: <a href="http://danielbackhaus.com/analytics-today-a-flood-of-tools-and-data-a-dearth-of-insight" rel="nofollow">http://danielbackhaus.com/analytics-today-a-flood-of-tools-and-data-a-dearth-of-insight</a>), data and tools are meaningless without staff that understand the business, can identify and focus on what is meaningful and have the analytical skills to create test scenarios to smoke out shortcomings and identify what is truly driving revenue.<br />
I truly believe that many businesses &#8211; even those proclaiming to practice analytics and data-driven optimization &#8211; still struggle with getting this right.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Top Business Technology Trend Predictions for 2013 by Joel Krieger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joel Krieger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2012 19:32:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great post, Dan. The Social prediction makes a lot of sense - I hadn&#039;t quite thought about it that way before. As for Big Data - I&#039;m still surprised most companies are so behind the 8 ball on this one. We&#039;ve had access to all this data for many years now - why has it taken so long to become sophisticated enough to derive real meaning and value from it?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, Dan. The Social prediction makes a lot of sense &#8211; I hadn&#8217;t quite thought about it that way before. As for Big Data &#8211; I&#8217;m still surprised most companies are so behind the 8 ball on this one. We&#8217;ve had access to all this data for many years now &#8211; why has it taken so long to become sophisticated enough to derive real meaning and value from it?</p>
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		<title>Comment on We’re All Techies Now by Daniel Backhaus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Backhaus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2012 21:30:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Chris,
Excellent comment and spot on, frankly. A veteran myself, I know that in the field a leader can quickly lose respect should his subordinates sense that he or she is not keeping up and carrying their own weight. Which is not to say that we all need to be experts in all fields. Clearly, that would be not only impossible but impractical and inefficient. I do believe, however, that basic proficiency in technical matters is a prerequisite for effective leadership these days, analogous to the basic annual marksmanship qualification required in the Corps.
Moreover, knowing what you don&#039;t know - and seeking the counsel and input of others at that time, along with actually &lt;em&gt;listening to it&lt;/em&gt; - can be just as important. Time after time I have seen senior executives rush into projects either without seeking input from IT or other departments, or ignoring the advice they may have received. Needless to say, most of these ended up either failing or were left for their successor to salvage, usually at great cost in terms of money, lost opportunity or employee frustration and turnover.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris,<br />
Excellent comment and spot on, frankly. A veteran myself, I know that in the field a leader can quickly lose respect should his subordinates sense that he or she is not keeping up and carrying their own weight. Which is not to say that we all need to be experts in all fields. Clearly, that would be not only impossible but impractical and inefficient. I do believe, however, that basic proficiency in technical matters is a prerequisite for effective leadership these days, analogous to the basic annual marksmanship qualification required in the Corps.<br />
Moreover, knowing what you don&#8217;t know &#8211; and seeking the counsel and input of others at that time, along with actually <em>listening to it</em> &#8211; can be just as important. Time after time I have seen senior executives rush into projects either without seeking input from IT or other departments, or ignoring the advice they may have received. Needless to say, most of these ended up either failing or were left for their successor to salvage, usually at great cost in terms of money, lost opportunity or employee frustration and turnover.</p>
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		<title>Comment on We’re All Techies Now by Chris Barber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Barber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2012 19:53:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree, most just don&#039;t get it, but what is even worse is that they don&#039;t seem to care to get it.  As a &quot;younger&quot; person in a position of leadership I find it very frustrating to constantly try to respond to questions coming from individuals without a basic understanding of the subject matter.  Many people in my past organizations label me as the guy that &quot;gets this stuff.&quot;  I&#039;m now starting to think that means they don&#039;t...  Luckily technology has enabled a more level playing field for those who do &quot;get it&quot; to build successful companies and products without having to rely on top level executives to make it happen.  Luckily I was in the military and understand the rifleman policy.  I was a 22 year old in charge of 30 men, up to 45 years old, and learned quickly that if you want to lead from the front you must be able to function in the middle.   

And I know I need to continue to work at &quot;getting it,&quot; your 12 year old daughter is coming after my job!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, most just don&#8217;t get it, but what is even worse is that they don&#8217;t seem to care to get it.  As a &#8220;younger&#8221; person in a position of leadership I find it very frustrating to constantly try to respond to questions coming from individuals without a basic understanding of the subject matter.  Many people in my past organizations label me as the guy that &#8220;gets this stuff.&#8221;  I&#8217;m now starting to think that means they don&#8217;t&#8230;  Luckily technology has enabled a more level playing field for those who do &#8220;get it&#8221; to build successful companies and products without having to rely on top level executives to make it happen.  Luckily I was in the military and understand the rifleman policy.  I was a 22 year old in charge of 30 men, up to 45 years old, and learned quickly that if you want to lead from the front you must be able to function in the middle.   </p>
<p>And I know I need to continue to work at &#8220;getting it,&#8221; your 12 year old daughter is coming after my job!</p>
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